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Read Oral History #231. Available in English.

But you know, here in church, with the role as women, sometimes I felt they do things, sorry to say …. Like we blacks, we have this humanity thing that we have. Like if you lose your member of your family, we go there with our condolences, and we go there and help. In this church I have not found that sense. In this ward, let me say. Because the other friend who was from Devon, they were doing it. I don’t know here. Here I was told that we are going to condolence the family, and I was told hat it’s not in the authority, the bishopric will do it. And I’m like, “Oh sisters.” And the other sister was in hospital.


In the Catholic church when they announce they were in hospital, we would take a public transport, and we all would go to that person, who doesn’t have money to transport fare, you borrow it and then you owe us. And now, here, I don’t know. I even thought to myself, it’s a white thing, because the church is dominated by whites. I’m told that we should send a message.

We South Africans would go there as group. Representing our Relief Society. Representing you as women. I was told that we were not going and send a message. How do you send a message when somebody is in hospital? It didn’t make sense, some of the things to me. I saw it as they were like adopting a white culture.