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Read Oral History #137. Original interview in French. An English translation is also available.

My precocious ambitions were that even as a young child in the Congo I pretended to be a school teacher, teaching my dolls and teddy bear, I wanted to found a family and make it succeed because I had seen my mother fail at this twice, and I wanted to earn a diploma and become a teacher, most of all to be able to stay home and take care if my children. I dreamed of having six children. But I was not able to make good choices and didn’t honor my values, because I wasn’t respected and had an ex-husband who only wanted to satisfy his fantasies. He didn’t want to get married and only did so to make me happy. But he wouldn’t change and didn’t want children and wanted me to get two abortions. But I stood firm and my deep desires of my heart were fulfilled and I had two boys and a girl. I was never sure that I was going to live through all of this.

All of this experience really prepared, along with my desire to become a teacher, to know the path to Christ, to want to know the true nature of Christ and of my Heavenly Father.


Even at the moment of my baptism, I was teaching in a Catholic school, the Ursulines at Simonis (Brussells). I had invited one of my colleagues to our baptism. I was learning how to teach the children in my class how to pray and my director came in and heard me praying with these little children. She later called me into her office to tell me how much she loved that manner of prayer. She even advised me to become a professor of religion! I was overcome. My ex-husband told me that I couldn’t reveal my true religion. I prayed about it and I felt that I must tell the truth. The director changed her manner with me and I sensed her profound deception but I couldn’t teach because I was a young member of the church and didn’t have enough knowledge and above all I lacked spiritual maturity. I was going to commit many errors in my faith as a little girl! I also had problems with my colleagues who had come to my baptism for they didn’t teach to pray to sing songs about Jesus. I was already beginning to experience opposition.