I think the church tries to be inclusive, I think. I think, well, I think there’s two things to that, obviously, where you’ve got a ward that’s very full of white British people, and then people coming from all different nations. I think although people are like very much yes love one another. I don’t know that people always integrate well, I think that’s something that we try really hard to do in Derby, because I know there’s other wards where there is a massive divide. And I know historically, you know, talk to people I would have some friends that live in South Africa, and they would say, you know, even though they’re all in the same ward, just like the black and the white people, you know what I mean? And never the twain shall meet, you know what I mean?
So, I think that I think, I think the church tries very much to be… to promote that we all live happily under one big roof, but I don’t know whether that always works, but I think that’s definitely something that in Derby we do really try to do. But I do think there’s an issue with well, you know, LGBTQ and all of that. I just think it’s very hard for like the old school to ever be more liberal. Do you know what I mean? I just feel like, you know, a lot of people say, well, they shouldn’t do it. You know what I mean? But they don’t understand the complexities of it. And I think that’s what makes young people find things very difficult. I know my kids would all have an issue with the way that we are about the inclusivity of that within the church. Whether that will ever change. Who knows?